Thursday, November 12, 2009

Arts Spawned from Shaolin (Shaolim)?

I know there are 3 styles that came from Shaolin, but I only remember two! Wing Chun and Hung Gar. What is the third?

Arts Spawned from Shaolin (Shaolim)?
Choi Lai Fut.
Reply:i have done homework thats how i know that. i look stuff up instead of just listening to crap spouted by people trying to popularize their art. Report It

Reply:for instance, did you know that very few eastern martial arts existed before 1900, and that ALL types of kung fu, karate, etc DID NOT EXIST AS SYSTEMS AT ALL DID NOT EVEN HAVE NAMES UNTIL AFTER WORLD WAR II Report It

Reply:Odd... I can trace my lineage back to over 300 years. Report It

Reply:that doesn't mean that it was a systemized martial art for all 300 years nor that it came from the shoalin temple, also can you prove all those people ever existed or might many of them be made up? because in most cases the majority of a lineage is made up, look it up Report It

Reply:One thing that those who practice Chinese martial arts can pride themselves on is having a lineage tree. As you may already know, this is similar to a family tree which traces roots back to the origin of a family. Report It

Reply:So, if you truly challenge me on whether my lineage is correct, I offer the same challenge to you and your family tree. Report It

Reply:i don't claim one, i know very little about it because i don't say things i don't know are true. seriously what would stop someone from just making up the names in your lineage? who would know? seriously look into it using actual sources not just believing what someone says Report It

Reply:If you know very little about your own lineage and family tree, how could you honestly try to disprove mine, one that you would know even less about? Mine is not steeped in mysticism, talking monkeys, or dragons. History is written. Report It

Reply:Hello,





There are much more than just 3 styles that 'came' from Shaolin.





White Eyebrow Kung-Fu


Hung-Kuen


Plum Flower


Ect...





You could even argue that Wudang 'came' from Shaolin since the influences were very similar.
Reply:HUNG CHUAN(KUEN) /HOP GAR are 2 others .





When the shaolin or suilum in some dialects was destroyed 5 monks managed to escape sometimes referred to as the 5 immortals or 5 fathers.


MASTER HOP


MASTER HUNG


MASTER GAR


MASTER LIM


MASTER LUM





As you can see by the style names the more well known ones were collaborations between 2 or more of these men .





It is thought all "hard styles" descended from MASTER HUNG.


MASTERS LIM and LUM never lent their name to any style but were thought to be exponents of tiger/crane/eagle methods and weapons mastery and their knowledge was incorperated into many systems that were to follow.


In japanese /okinawan terminology shao lin is expressed as shorin/shorin ji/shorei as chinese martial arts had a strong influence on okinawan martial arts.So you could say shaolin can count hundreds of descendants MARTIAL ARTS WISE





The earliest disciple of these men were


MASTER CHOY


MASTER LAI


MASTER FUT


In turn their students combined the teachings to create one method
Reply:Shaolin (Small Forest) is Buddhist, but Tai Chi Chuan is Taoist. Bhodidharma is said to've invented martial arts at the Chan Buddhist Shaolin temple in Loyang by copying movements of animals. There are now 5 orthodox animal styles: tiger, leopard, crane, serpent and dragon. There is an esoteric 5 venoms too: spider, centipede, scorpion, snake and toad. Unorthodox animal styles exist too, e.g. monkey and mantis. There are 5 family styles. of them, I have studied only Hung Gar and Choi Li Fut. Wing Chun and the Drunken style are other unorthodox offshoots of Shaolin styles. There are many more than 3 styles, as you can see from the list above. I have given more details in other answers, and I told about my style in a question I asked. Look at it if you want more or ask me.
Reply:actually no style came from shaolin many arts have claimed that as a marketing strategy but no art can prove a line, coming from the temple nor can any even name one (made up or not). in fact all people(or in a few cases the grandchildren of) who claimed that thier art came from shaolin have later admitted that they made it up.


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